Comments on: Google: Uncensored search results to China via Hong Kong servers http://blog.popjack.net/2010/03/22/google-uncensored-search-results-to-china-via-hong-kong-servers/ ramblings of a mediocre genius Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:14:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: tbudd http://blog.popjack.net/2010/03/22/google-uncensored-search-results-to-china-via-hong-kong-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-287 tbudd Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:19:19 +0000 http://blog.popjack.net/?p=141#comment-287 ZDNet has a lot on this, and quite frankly, it's critical of Google--either from a tech or business perspective. I'm surprised that geeks would be anything less than supportive, and not for the reasons you'd guess. While Google is a dominant force with brilliant programmers, you would think that's reason enough for techies to support the withdrawal from China. But instead, I'm finding this ammoral economic, innovation-based dissent. I thought nerds were very liberal. True geeks live by principles of open-source, ready-access to information and freedom of thought. Very radical. Maybe it's the wonky writers on the tech forums and publications who are mainstream business douches. They're not bright enough, however, to see that the financial and the political are very intertwined. From my perspective, we should all be thanking, supporting and congratulating Google on a very brave and SMART decision. This article isn't too bad. http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=1870 ZDNet has a lot on this, and quite frankly, it’s critical of Google–either from a tech or business perspective. I’m surprised that geeks would be anything less than supportive, and not for the reasons you’d guess. While Google is a dominant force with brilliant programmers, you would think that’s reason enough for techies to support the withdrawal from China. But instead, I’m finding this ammoral economic, innovation-based dissent. I thought nerds were very liberal. True geeks live by principles of open-source, ready-access to information and freedom of thought. Very radical. Maybe it’s the wonky writers on the tech forums and publications who are mainstream business douches. They’re not bright enough, however, to see that the financial and the political are very intertwined. From my perspective, we should all be thanking, supporting and congratulating Google on a very brave and SMART decision.

This article isn’t too bad.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=1870

]]> By: tbudd http://blog.popjack.net/2010/03/22/google-uncensored-search-results-to-china-via-hong-kong-servers/comment-page-1/#comment-284 tbudd Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:15:37 +0000 http://blog.popjack.net/?p=141#comment-284 Go Google. I love this. It's such a compelling moment in globalization. The nation versus the corporation. Let's get something straight: China lies. About everything. Having said that, I'm curious about the backroom talks between Google executives and the US State Dept. Google is taking a stand that the administration can't afford to. I wonder if Hillary/Obama has put pressure on Google to reconsider their actions, or pushed them to pursue shutting down in China. Yes, China is rich and leading the world in manufacturing power and strong currency. They're also really backwards on human rights and cultural exports. The US has a weak dollar and we make nothing--except ideas. Google is a cultural force (aside from being the premiere search engine). They are an informal ambassador of the West, free speech, political dissent, etc. Google will shut down there. Eventually, China will have to cave or risk becoming lumped with the "tribal, anti-western" mentality of the Mideast nations and other fundamentalist societies. The key difference is that political ideology drives China's decisions while religious fervor drives the jihadists. In the end, McGoogle will win. P.S. Splenda-packet, no? Go Google. I love this. It’s such a compelling moment in globalization. The nation versus the corporation.
Let’s get something straight: China lies. About everything.
Having said that, I’m curious about the backroom talks between Google executives and the US State Dept. Google is taking a stand that the administration can’t afford to. I wonder if Hillary/Obama has put pressure on Google to reconsider their actions, or pushed them to pursue shutting down in China.

Yes, China is rich and leading the world in manufacturing power and strong currency. They’re also really backwards on human rights and cultural exports. The US has a weak dollar and we make nothing–except ideas. Google is a cultural force (aside from being the premiere search engine). They are an informal ambassador of the West, free speech, political dissent, etc.

Google will shut down there. Eventually, China will have to cave or risk becoming lumped with the “tribal, anti-western” mentality of the Mideast nations and other fundamentalist societies. The key difference is that political ideology drives China’s decisions while religious fervor drives the jihadists. In the end, McGoogle will win.

P.S. Splenda-packet, no?

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